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10,000 Year Old Bones Of Boy Found In Underwater Mexican Cave

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August 26, 2010: Daily Mail Reporter / Mail Online – August 25, 2010

The remains of a prehistoric child that were found in an underwater cave in Mexico four years ago have now been removed by a team of divers.

The skeletal remains of the boy, dubbed the Young Hol Chan, are more than 10,000 years old and are among the oldest human bones found in the Americas. Scientists hope that the well-preserved corpse will offer clues to ancient human migration.

The corpse was discovered in 2006 by a pair of German cave divers who were exploring unique flooded sandstone sinkholes, known as cenotes, common to the eastern Mexican state of Quintana Roo.

He appears to have been a young boy and was found with his legs bent to his left side and his arms extended to either side of his body. No other ancient skeleton has ever been found in this position.

Scientists spent three years studying the remains where they lay before deciding it was safe to bring the skeleton to the surface for further study.

Anthropologists from the National Automonous University of Mexico think that the body was placed in the cave in a funeral ceremony performed late in the Pleistocene epoch when the sea level was around 488 feet lower than it is today.

Experts recovered 60 percent of the skeleton, including bones from both arms and legs, vertebrae, ribs, the skull and several teeth – all fantastically preserved.

Divers have also found the partial skeletons of three other people, known as the Woman of Naharon, the Woman of Las Palmas and the Temple Man, all of which were discovered inside other flooded caves.

Scientists believe that the latest discovery ‘strengthens the hypothesis that the American continent was populated starting with several migrations coming from Asia.’

In an announcement the university said that the burial sites ‘reveal migrations coming from southeastern Asia before those known up to now as Clovis groups, which are said to have crossed from northern Asia, also via the Bering Strait, at the end of the Ice Age.’

Some scientists believe that the Clovis people crossed into America from Asia around 14,000 years ago and gradually made their way down, over many generations, to settle in northern Mexico.

Others believe that the first people in America actually crossed from the Pacific on boats, possibly even earlier than the Clovis.

The finds at the caves in Quintana Roo appear to predate earlier Clovis finds from similar areas in Mexico…

The institute is co-ordinating a study of early human migration to eastern Mexico that aims to deepen the understanding of the movement of people across the Bering Strait at the end of the last Ice Age.

The Young Hol Chan, named after the cenote where he was discovered, was found in a darkened cave 27 feet beneath the surface.

The Tonka Report Editor’s Note: For all of you so-called Christians who still believe the earth was created 6,000 years ago, not only does this and many other much older discoveries around the world completely disprove your theory, but shows that you are not reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit. Adam was not the first man created (Genesis 1:27), he was the first man “formed” who became a “living soul” (Genesis 2:7) a little over 6,000 years ago. God created man, the Lord God (spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ before He was manifest in the flesh) formed Adam much later. Follow the genealogy in Genesis 5, then do the math using the Great Flood as a time reference. Both evolution and Creationism occurred, but at different times in earth’s history that overlap in the narrative that has been distorted throughout time by nefarious factions. And yes, folks, I am a Christian, and an ordained pastor who seeks the truth…  - SJH

Link to original article below…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1305929/Ancient-skeleton-prehistoric-child-removed-Mexican-underwater-cave.html

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Written by Steven John Hibbs

August 26, 2010 at 4:55 pm

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  1. I think that I would have to respectfully disagree with you here. There have been (and always will be) issues with scientific dating techniques, so simply because they say that this find is 10,000 years old does not actually mean that that is actually the case.

    Hypothetical question, if Adam was killed 1 day after he was formed, and you tested him the next day using scientific dating techniques, how old would he turn out to be?

    Three days old?
    As old as the materials he was formed from?
    As old as he appears to be, physically, for example, middle-age adult (as the common belief is)?

    My point here is that the science can be wrong, and/or our understanding of how the ancients calculated time can be wrong.

    penultima

    August 27, 2010 at 3:29 pm

  2. Penultima,

    The ancient Mayan civilization that was established in the same region of Mexico as the archaeological finds in the underwater caves in Quintero Roo in recent estimates dates back 3,000 years plus…

    “The Maya area was initially inhabited around the 10th century BC. Recent discoveries of Maya occupation at Cuello in Belize have been carbon dated to around 2600 BC.[3][4] This level of occupation included monumental structures. The Maya calendar, which is based around the so-called Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, commences on a date equivalent to 11 August, 3114 BC. However, according to “accepted history” the first clearly “Maya” settlements were established in approximately 1800 BC in Soconusco region of the Pacific Coast. This period, known as the Early Preclassic,[5] was characterized by sedentary communities and the introduction of pottery and fired clay figurines.[6]”

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization

    …and is attributed with one of the most accurate calenders ever created that descended from their ancestors…

    “The Maya calendar is a system of calendars and almanacs used in the Maya civilization of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, and in some modern Maya communities in highland Guatemala and Oaxaca, Mexico.

    “The essentials of the Maya calendric system are based upon a system which had been in common use throughout the region, dating back to at least the 6th century BC. It shares many aspects with calendars employed by other earlier Mesoamerican civilizations, such as the Zapotec and Olmec, and contemporary or later ones such as the Mixtec and Aztec calendars. Although the Mesoamerican calendar did not originate with the Maya, their subsequent extensions and refinements of it were the most sophisticated. Along with those of the Aztecs, the Maya calendars are the best-documented and most completely understood.”

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar

    What I am proposing here is that there were two creations – Genesis 1:27 who were the first tribes that Cain later married into in Genesis 4:16-18 – and again in Genesis 2:7 when man was given identity and a ‘living soul.’

    Peace and God bless…

    – SJH

    Steven John Hibbs

    August 27, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    • You know for the longest time man has been trying to figure this one out.

      Pretend you are really smart, time flows a little differently for you, and you are dictating to a guy with chisel or a reed dipped in ink and vellum….

      Just pretend ok…I mean I try to work with academia through all of the missing links and massive assumptions being made… so hear me out.

      With just one assumption in place we address an age old argument and most of the banter can fall by the wayside. It is abundantly to most people that a lot of the old testament is a history. That one assumption: That the calculation of man-time is different that God-time, addresses so many of the “holes” that are supposed poked.

      fyi, my PhD isn’t in romance literature or religion…it’s in engineering. So I get a few of the arguments…the problem is when you see an actual miracle its really powerful in helping commit. I mean “the world of science” asks us all to take a lot on faith–but if you do it on your own–you’re a heretic against the established. :)

      Patrick P., PhD

      October 30, 2010 at 1:01 am

  3. Patrick P., PhD.,

    You mean like “the world of science” expects us to swallow the global warming fraud on “faith?” Or that there were WMDs in Iraq? Or 3 steel structure buildings can miraculously collapse at freefall speed on 9/11 from fire?

    If a “heretic” is one who understands truth contrary to the “establishment,” I stand guilty as charged by the liars and manipulators of deception as so many others before me have.

    There have been thousands of lies spun for every truth to discredit the facts for personal engrandizement and the slavery of humanity for thousands of years.

    The fact of the matter is, there is still only one truth. Two plus two still equals four, regardless of how many ways are used to spin it otherwise. Only the fearful believe them, only the ignorant die for them, only the fearless oppose them…

    Peace and God bless…

    - SJH

    Steven John Hibbs

    October 30, 2010 at 1:44 am

  4. The earliest account of the earth being oceanic was Genesis
    The earliest account of the earth being enclosed in a cloud or haze deck was Genesis
    The earliest account of the continents rising out of the oceans was Genesis
    The earliest account of life coming out of the sea was Genesis
    The earliest account of life emerging on land after it was already in the ocean was Genesis

    Bert

    November 13, 2010 at 8:42 pm

  5. Bert,

    Actually, the Sumerian, The Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Bible…

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

    However, I feel compelled to remind everyone of this verse written by Peter…

    “But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”II Peter 3:8 KJV

    In otherwords, Genesis Chapter 1 is not specific on the time between Verse 1 and Verse 27. Nor is it specified, other than a “day” how long it was between Genesis 1:27 and Genesis 2:7 when Adam was formed “and became a living soul.”

    Thus, the time of God and the time of man is indeed a different perception of reality.

    Peace and God bless…

    - SJH

    Steven John Hibbs

    November 14, 2010 at 2:49 am


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